Thursday, December 13, 2018

#1 2018-11-13 12:13:14 pm

Site Admin
From:: Victoria, B.C. Canada
Registered: 2002-12-12
Posts: 34
Website Planning

With the transition of MacScripter from Ray to me completed and the site mostly stabilized, I'm beginning to think about the site's future.  Here is your chance to make suggestions about how you would like to see evolve over the next couple of years?

There are also some technology issues to consider.  MacScripter is based on a hacked version of FluxBB which means that maintenance and upgrades are difficult.  FluxBB is a pretty old-school BBS platform and discussion platforms have evolved.  My Script Debugger support forum uses Discourse and is much simpler to maintain.  A move of MacScripter to Discourse would be jarring to the users, but it would reduce my operations and maintenance workload.

I'm also interested in people's ideas for expanding MacScripter's reach.  For instance, I think Shortcuts on iOS is quite interesting and may be something around which we can create a community.

Let me know your ideas...

Mark Alldritt - Late Night Software Ltd. |



#2 2018-11-19 02:20:06 pm

Adam Bell
From:: Nova Scotia, Canada
Registered: 2005-10-04
Posts: 4665

Re: Planning

Early in this millennium there was a section of MacScripter called ScriptWire in which we hosted (and I edited) a huge selection of tutorials. Andy Innatko said this about us: Hands-down the best AppleScript information and education resource outside of Apple. What the hey. Throw Apple in there, too. At this writing, MacScripter contains more than 1,300 sample scripts in every conceivable category for your benefit and edification. It attempts the impossible task of documenting every major Mac app's level of scriptability. There's a busy, busy, busy message board where newbie questions are always welcome; MacScripter has succeeded in building a real community.

My only adder to that is that there were more than 1600 scripts in ScriptBuilders, about 300 threads in Code Exchange, and thousands in the bbs. When Ray decided to change servers instead of running his own some years ago, he wanted to simplify and shrink the site, so he eliminated several sections and recast ScriptBuilders into ScriptWire. I don't recall the details, but ScriptWire doesn't have the editorial degrees of freedom that ScriptBuilders did, so it really isn't edited any more and most of the contributors dropped out.

At 81 with health problems, I'm not interested in resuming any editorial duties, but I still believe that ScriptBuilders served a really great purpose; it got newbies interested in scripting and served as a repository to which contributors to the regular channels could refer for a more extensive discussion of a particular problem. Good stuff, in my view.

Be nice if you resurrected something like that. It would be really great to have some extensive tutorials on using Shane Stanley's AppleScriptObjC and script libraries and some on using Pfiddlesoft's UI Browser tools. I realize that Apple is kind of backing out of AppleScripting, but there still exists a community that uses it every day. Even though I use, for examples, both Typinator and Keyboard Maestro, I almost always accomplish what I want them to do by embedding an AppleScript. is virtually the only site with the kind of coverage and friendly help it has on the web. Be nice to enhance it back to its former breadth.

iMac running OS X 10.13.1



#3 2018-11-20 08:24:39 am

Nigel Garvey
From:: Warwickshire, England
Registered: 2002-11-20
Posts: 4741

Re: Planning

Adam Bell wrote:

I don't recall the details …

As I recall, MacScripter's front page used to be a freshly written tutorial article written by either one of the adminstrators or one of the moderators. The articles would firstly be submitted to a private forum on the site called unScripted [staging] for feedback from the other contributors and would be published when Adam deemed it time. As each new article was published, the previous one would be added the unScripted forum. (Or it may have been added immediately upon publication. I'm not sure now.)

ScriptBuilders was a part of the site to which people could upload actual script files which they thought might be useful or interesting to others. It was necessary to join ScriptBuilders in addition to MacScripter to be allowed to upload. ScriptBuilders and everything in it disappeared when the site was revamped. Some of my own scripts later turned up in script libraries elsewhere on the Web — without my knowledge or consent — but I've lost track of them now. They'd be mostly out of date now anyway.

Last edited by Nigel Garvey (2018-11-20 08:25:22 am)




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